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Who do you think would win in a gang fight: the Keebler Elves or the Girl Scouts? I think the Elves would have superior organization, guile and technology, while Girl Scouts would have the advantage of size and sheer ruthlessness.

Yes, it's Girl Scout Cookie season again. The Girl Scout Cookie program is designed to teach young women the value of teamwork, entrepreneurship and using your cuteness to sucker money out of people. This is why the cookies are not available for online orders 365 days per year; the scouts are forced to put forth the effort and promotion and we are forced to interact with the little vendors.

Which means I have to stock up now for the lean summer and autumn months. I have probably mentioned in this space that my favorite ice cream combination is vanilla with mashed-up Thin Mints. For more traditional cookie usage, however, I am all about the All-Abouts.

D.C.-area cookie lovers can search for their next and nearest sales venue here.

Re: From today's New York Times

Date: 2007-02-28 02:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] village-twins.livejournal.com
I suppose it is un-American to suggest that Girl Scout Cookies don't taste good. But exploiting thousands of laborers so that a few people can get rich... it doesn't get more American than that.

Re: From today's New York Times

Date: 2007-02-28 08:08 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
And, given my lack of sources, I'm DEFINITELY not saying that's happening here. But I could have sworn that I read it somewhere, and it should concern anyone considering buying the cookies, if it is true.

Re: From today's New York Times

Date: 2007-03-01 01:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] village-twins.livejournal.com
(Smithie98 writing from DL004D's account)
For the record:

A) how can you guys NOT understand the National vs. Local Council vs. Troop?? Think of this as the Feds, the States and the city. Josh--as per EP's post on the FAQ's above, the NATIONAL GIRL SCOUT COUNCIL does NOT get any money from the sale of the cookies.

B) In Madison, my girl scout troop belonged to the Black Hawk Council, which serves 9,000+ girls in 9 counties in Wisconsin. This council owns property (some of my fondest girl-scouting memories were spent at a converted farm house called Echo Valley) and equipment like tents for camping. Money that goes to the local councils goes into salaries, but also upkeep, new equipment, training, etc. etc. etc. How is this any different from any other non-profit? For an individual troop, whose enrollment numbers shift from year to year, paying for these things is just not feasible. Plus, since most troops were formed (in my day) by mothers whose daughters were in them, once the daughters are no longer scouts, what would happen to all that equipment?

I don't mean to rant, but if the girl scouts didn't make money in some way, there would be no scouts--no one to pay the bills and buy new equipment, no one to make sure that the leaders all had first aid and CPR training. I understand that there have been scandals recently about the extraordinary compensations that CEOs of other non-profits (Mr. Small being a prime example), but making money from selling cookies helps themselves not just some person in the front office.

Oh, BTW, at $4.00 a box (which is about what the cookies cost--again, I think that each council sets the price), the troop makes $0.72 per box sold. I sold 250 boxes one year, which would be $180 for the troop. I don't remember what we did with the money, but I assume that some went to scholarships for the girls in my troop who couldn't afford the nominal fees.

I promise to stop posting only rants to EP's blog, starting.... now! (unless Josh says something equally ridiculous again)

Re: From today's New York Times

Date: 2007-03-01 02:04 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Look, if I had the article I was talking about, then this would have all looked different. It DEFINITELY was NOT 18 percent. Maybe the attention that article had raised the compensation to the troops. If so, good.

Re: From today's New York Times

Date: 2007-03-01 02:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enchanted-pants.livejournal.com
Thank you, Smithie, for lending some much-needed perspective to the discussion. All this debate obscures what was my original meager point: Girl Scout Cookies are delicious.

I paid $3.50 per box.

Re: From today's New York Times

Date: 2007-03-01 09:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smithie98.livejournal.com
I totally agree with you EP--Girl Scout cookies are SOO tasty. And I have been bummed the last few years to not work with anyone who has daughters selling the cookies.

Where do you get yours?

Re: From today's New York Times

Date: 2007-03-01 09:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enchanted-pants.livejournal.com
I bought mine in the lobby of my Harris Teeter, but my boss's daughter is also a pusher. Let me know what you want and I'll hook you up.

Re: From today's New York Times

Date: 2007-03-02 02:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] village-twins.livejournal.com
Smithie: I've got a Girl Scout mother in my office who will hook you up. Not to worry.

Re: From today's New York Times

Date: 2007-03-02 02:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] village-twins.livejournal.com
I just noticed EP also used the phrase "hook you up." Either way, you'll be very well connected. No need to worry about being wireless.

Re: From today's New York Times

Date: 2007-03-06 07:14 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Is anyone else finding it a little odd that Smithie and dl004d are using this venue to communicate?

Re: From today's New York Times

Date: 2007-03-06 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enchanted-pants.livejournal.com
I, personally, find it gratifying. l004d family, let me know if there are any other topics you'd like me to discuss here, thereby facilitating communication in a safe and welcoming atmosphere.

Re: From today's New York Times

Date: 2007-03-06 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] village-twins.livejournal.com
I'm curious what Smithie wants for dinner tonight. Let's get a thread going on that.

(I don't know who Anonymous is, but he definitely is not in an accelerated nursing program in which he has 12-hour shifts on clinical rotations throughout the night in addition to taking the class-load of an entire senior year of college in one semester.)

(I am assuming Anon is a man.)

Re: From today's New York Times

Date: 2007-03-06 10:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smithie98.livejournal.com
I'm in the mood for chili--what do you want DL004D?

Re: From today's New York Times

Date: 2007-03-06 10:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enchanted-pants.livejournal.com
I had chili over french fried potatoes on Sunday. So good.

But tonight I am recommending a tomato soup (perhaps fortified with heavy cream and meat of your choice) and Caesar salad combo.

Re: From today's New York Times

Date: 2007-03-06 11:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] village-twins.livejournal.com
And Girl Scout cookies for dessert, right?

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